If you want a baggy balloon trouser without the huge sizing or baggy (chub rub!) crotch of the rumi, this is the one. Fits snug on the waist (im a 33" waist and ordered a 12, which fits with stretch but the elastic is quite firm) but still lovely and roomy on the tummy and thighs while still having a comfortable rise on them. Will be living in these. The weave is a little thicker than I expected, almost like a crinkle/quilted feeling, but not thick and very comfortable and soft. Also, surprisingly, the striped ones don't look like pyjama bottoms which is easily done on that style of stripe!